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Radiohead embodies the ineffeable...Fucking awesome.<br />Radiohead embodies the ineffeable angst of my generation.<br />Post-modern nihilism permeates modern consciousness.<br />Radiohead captures it in every word/sound.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404290219676310081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-33243480384284797752010-08-22T02:35:10.230-04:002010-08-22T02:35:10.230-04:00Great article, but as a side note Pyramid Song is ...Great article, but as a side note Pyramid Song is in 4/4.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-60492106697939284942010-05-12T09:48:40.077-04:002010-05-12T09:48:40.077-04:00Wow great postWow great postSamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08962163676158719914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-84514027248854347992010-03-30T15:50:06.534-04:002010-03-30T15:50:06.534-04:00I am of the mind that the only Radiohead album(s) ...I am of the mind that the only Radiohead album(s) deserving of a mid-life crisis tag are Kid A/Amnesiac. But I believe, to a certain extent, that that was sort of the point there. As for what they have left, I have a feeling they will be making music together (in one form or another) for a long long time. For nearly 20 years it has been the same guys in more or less the same roles in an ebb and flow of creativity. And while I don't think that Radiohead's future will play out like that *other* seminal British rock band that we haven't really talked about... you know, the one with the skinny guy who struts around and that really burnt out guitarist, existing more or less as a tour band, releasing albums that only sell a few hundred thousand but selling out stadium shows well into their 60's... I do believe that Radiohead has a lot left in the tank.jaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360792834574232027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-7999384257524334872010-03-29T15:24:21.949-04:002010-03-29T15:24:21.949-04:00I'm intrigued by the Beatles/Radiohead compari...I'm intrigued by the Beatles/Radiohead comparisons and Jared and I wrote a few questions dealing with that subject for the syllabus. However, I'm unclear on what you mean by termed the White Album a "mid-life crisis album." It was released in 1968, just 2 years before their breakup. Discounting Yellow Submarine, the Beatles only released two albums, Abbey Road and Let It Be before the group was dissolved, many of the tracks for those albums being recorded and conceived in those same sessions. In the same way that we view In Rainbows as Radiohead's more or less "back to basics" album, relying much less on studio artifice than much of their OK Computer and esp. Kid A/Amnesiac work, Abbey Road and Let It Be took similar approaches. After the esoteric White Album, Let It Be and Abbey Road, esp. the continously playing second side, is some of their tightest work as an ensemble. <br /><br />While a lot of their solo work would seem to portend a rift over musical direction, the band in interviews seem to be quite content playing with each other. While I see your point about a possible creative stagnation after such a long history of experimentation, I don't really see a breakup on the horizon, and would much more readily apply the "mid-life crisis" tag to Hail to the Thief than to the White album, which in my mind marked the zenith of both their creativity and their combustibility, and revealed tensions that would rapidly cause the band's break up.SWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17756937856276672626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-16793083990810097832010-03-29T15:02:13.449-04:002010-03-29T15:02:13.449-04:00Excellent summary. Is it fair to say that the mat...Excellent summary. Is it fair to say that the material on "In Rainbows" is radically different considering the amount of material they excavated from earlier sessions (Nude, Reckoner, Weird Fishes, etc.)? While a lot of these songs were dramatically reworked they are the outgrowth, possibly even the more mature versions of seeds planted long ago, at different stops throughout their career. <br /><br />We discussed the theme of Thom becoming increasingly disengaged, his lyricism becoming less grounded in corporate slogans and surburban platitudes juxtaposed with the generalized anxieties induced by modern living as he moves toward a lofty sedation. I enjoyed our discussion about the nature of Radiohead's rainbow - it's dreamy, escapist associations are clouded by the image of polluted oilstain. <br /><br />I would argue then that Radiohead is at its same old tricks - they are the magician who expertly performs a trick only to reveal their slight of hand. They pretend to offer a picture of ethereal bliss only to undermine these images with other images, terrible images, explaining why we still feel such malaise listening to a lush and beautiful album titled In Rainbows. <br /><br />Musically, sure, this is more straightforward (we tossed around the word "minimalist" although I'm not really that comfortable applying it here) album than anything Radiohead has done since the Bends, and you've summarized our discussion and the albums themes beautifully - but to me it seems like the next logical step in Radiohead's evolution, albeit one we might not have expected. <br /><br />Like you, I'm interested to see where they go next. Again, this is extremely well written, as was the summary of TWBB.SWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17756937856276672626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-88081601458303458322010-02-12T13:37:56.108-05:002010-02-12T13:37:56.108-05:00Weeks have passed, and I have found that these two...Weeks have passed, and I have found that these two albums do fall back in memory a bit, not so profoundly and importantly salient among a crowd of music groups uttering the same message. But, the message from these two albums gains more momentum and transforms and takes new dimension with OK Computer and then with Kid A and Amnesiac. In a way, I feel like Pablo Honey and The Bends gets us all on board, but it's very in between 2d and 3d. OK Computer and onwards, I feel the extraction of the meaning in the music, new dimensions.Charliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10433848168332418011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-41342986873453822392010-02-12T13:28:25.174-05:002010-02-12T13:28:25.174-05:00An interesting thought I had upon reading this pos...An interesting thought I had upon reading this post is the momentum behind this chilling shot to the world with Kid A. Kid A criticizes the structured, "everything in it's place" existence, and as such, we discover that the conventions of rock music are just as deleterious as the world Kid A AS WELL AS those conventional yet lyrically revolting rock songs appear to criticize. So Kid A has that energy of catapulting everything we feel about any other band that seeks to utter the same message.<br /><br />Also, I am sure other music groups have accomplished what Kid A accomplishes, but not with the advantage Radiohead has of beginning from the conventions, accomplishing the widespread applause and following of listeners, and ONLY THEN unveiling the message. Had Radiohead began their career with Kid A, I believe we would not be here in this class because it would have been the same old "Blast to the system of music" tale. Kid A utilizes the authority and capital Radiohead has accumulated.<br /><br />Steve, I suppose one thing to consider about the uplifting feeling you have with Amnesiac is the fact that Life in a Glass House is a song recorded/written after the release of Kid A. It's not one of the songs recorded with Kid A. So, the ending of Amnesiac is reflective of the great experiment. The lyrics are reflective and echo time and past with growing resolve, "Once again..." being the appositive at the end of the song.Charliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10433848168332418011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-9671296672050829862010-02-09T18:26:52.149-05:002010-02-09T18:26:52.149-05:00Sorry, I mean "isn't the right word"...Sorry, I mean "isn't the right word"SWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17756937856276672626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-43109486553124689562010-02-09T15:05:08.150-05:002010-02-09T15:05:08.150-05:00When I say I feel "oddly uplifted," I me...When I say I feel "oddly uplifted," I mean oddly in that considering the bleakness and violence of the whole album, "Life in a Glass House" especially, there is a reaching out of sorts - Thom insists on the vulnerability of our positions in the glass houses we build for ourselves. We shield ourselves with these false constructs, niceties, banal conversations, etc. so we don't have to think about what's going on. Maybe it's not that novel of an idea, but they are recognizing that of all the terrible forces in the world, the final and most deadly is inertia. This is what they are attacking, and it resonates with me. Perhaps uplifting is the wrong word.<br /><br />Also, Jared you're right - it's Dollars and Cents. Apparently the band doesn't share my affinity for lame puns.SWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17756937856276672626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-20775778019435850602010-02-09T14:22:15.467-05:002010-02-09T14:22:15.467-05:00Heres the quote:
“I’m not sure they are two recor...Heres the quote:<br /><br />“I’m not sure they are two records. We had that group of songs [Kid A] make one record, and the other ones are left over. We had, say, 23 songs and we wanted to have around 47 minutes of music for [Kid A], so we chose the best combination out of that number and the rest are waiting on the bench, waiting to be picked up for the next team line-up. Amnesiac is more conventional perhaps, but also more dissonant. But it continues on from Kid A. It was all done in the same recording period. It is all a whole” –ColinLCLighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08007475847984030874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-89277562433871285002010-02-09T14:08:51.558-05:002010-02-09T14:08:51.558-05:00You nailed the difference between Kid A and Amnesi...You nailed the difference between Kid A and Amnesiac on the head as seeing the "fire" from afar and being in the midst of it; however, I do agree with Jared in terms of the ending of Amnesiac. Life in A Glass House is being in the dead center of the "fire" and there is no escaping. Everything done is easily visible; however hope is still present unlike the end of Kid A as Jared also notes. I have a quote from Colin which describes the relationship between the two perfectly which I'll share on Friday. This is a phenomenal start though.LCLighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08007475847984030874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-82001952413894764162010-02-08T19:36:29.567-05:002010-02-08T19:36:29.567-05:00Steve - brilliant. You really nail the contrasts ...Steve - brilliant. You really nail the contrasts Thom et al. create on Kid A and Amnesiac. Just a couple of things... first, isn't the track called Dollars & Cents (not Sense)? Second, do you think the "two colors" are Kid A and Amnesiac? They are definitely of different character. Finally, I find it interesting that you are uplifted at the end of Amnesiac. Life in a Glass House is bitter, and ends with uncertainty ("is someone listening in?"). Still, its less depressing than the angelic harps of Kid A's closer Motion Picture Soundtrack and the line "I'll see you in the next life".jaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360792834574232027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-6040737704115052892010-02-08T13:56:18.805-05:002010-02-08T13:56:18.805-05:00Nice summary...good things to keep in mind as we l...Nice summary...good things to keep in mind as we look forward to Kid A/Amnesiac.SWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17756937856276672626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-77184103828333772702010-01-30T18:20:08.901-05:002010-01-30T18:20:08.901-05:00Amazing write up. Cant wait to be a part of it.Amazing write up. Cant wait to be a part of it.LCLighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08007475847984030874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-57799693323394835032010-01-30T08:38:32.428-05:002010-01-30T08:38:32.428-05:00Not being a RadioheadHead myself, Charlie, I can&#...Not being a RadioheadHead myself, Charlie, I can't say I quite follow your logic in the argument contending a qualitatively different status for this group. Look hard at your phrase "truly express"--and figure out what it means to conclude that other expressions-through-art do not or cannot "truly" express. You concede that it's a matter of aesthetic judgment, anyway, when you liken it to adolescent alone-feeling ("Am I the only one who...?").Al Filreishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361573484797020525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-22153135487504815512010-01-30T08:34:37.234-05:002010-01-30T08:34:37.234-05:00Seems from this post like it was a rigorous and wi...Seems from this post like it was a rigorous and wide-ranging discussion. Keep it up!Al Filreishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361573484797020525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-67569997457420235702010-01-29T19:23:43.943-05:002010-01-29T19:23:43.943-05:00Sam - you are correct to say that while Kid A and ...Sam - you are correct to say that while Kid A and Amnesiac are similar in sound (the tracks were all recorded in the same sessions), each album has its own attitude. Where you are wrong: Amnesiac is hardly composed of Kid A "rejects" - it is more stable, a bit more aggressive and less erratic, for the most part (of course there are moments where it is extremely disjointed). Its elements have a different character than those of Kid A, and for that reason, it needed its own release. In many ways Amnesiac is a stronger album than Kid A.<br /><br />-Jaredjaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360792834574232027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-52338589432497538292010-01-27T21:04:22.459-05:002010-01-27T21:04:22.459-05:00I think that this is a really interesting point th...I think that this is a really interesting point that you are making about how the two albums make you feel alienated, which is something that I feel almost all of their music express (at least up until In Rainbows), whether directly by lyrics (I mean c'mon, "Creep" pretty much smacks you in the face with alienation repeatedly), or at least in some sort of ethereal feeling achieved by the music composition that sometimes feels like it is just crawling under your skin. <br /><br />Something that I really think is great about Radiohead is that each album (to me at least) feels like it is expressing a different feeling. Even Amnesiac and Kid A, which both SOUND extremely similar (Amnesiac is just the "rejects" from Kid A) to me at least FEEL different. For everybody that connection to the music is different and what the feeling that is almost being projected onto oneself is different, but the thing that I think stays the same is the fact that a feeling is DEFINITELY being projected.<br /><br />As a huge Radiohead fan myself (they have got to be my favorite band), I think that the albums that connect, to me at least, the most are Kid A and In Rainbows (in my opinion those are the best), but I guess I'll have to wait for you to listen to those to give my opinions.<br /><br />Something that I think is interesting a stroke of irony is that even though it evokes for you a sense of alienation, to achieve that feeling a deep connection had to be made, or vice versa; by feeling alienated, you feel connected! It's sort of like the idea that one feels that you are the only one having a certain problem(as a highschooler I completely agree), but even if that is true everybody is feeling that, making you the same as them by being unique.<br /><br />I hope everything that I said is clear! Can't wait for more from this blog!<br />--Sam Wolk<br /><br />P.S. I'll hit up a link to your blog in mine!<br />Kid A/In Rainbows for life!Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08962163676158719914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872489015822533224.post-87019924573791281582010-01-24T19:09:56.955-05:002010-01-24T19:09:56.955-05:00Also, bear in mind that this class is an exercise ...Also, bear in mind that this class is an exercise in critical and analytical assessment of a group of artistic works...not a fanclub. While it is valid to offer your opinion on a piece, the goal of the group is not to reach an agreement on what we do or do not like best. If you like or dislike something, say why, and try to contextualize what your are hearing reading and connect it to the body of work that we have studied up to that point in time.SWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17756937856276672626noreply@blogger.com